DAMN STRAIGHT, Bosch. I found the following quotes online today and was astounded and disgusted (even though I do not know if all of them are authentic). Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an." Tabari I:280 "Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid." Qur'an 4:3 "If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with orphans, marry women of your choice who seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to do justice (to so many), then only one, or (a slave) that you possess, that will be more suitable. And give the women their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, eat it with enjoyment, take it with right good cheer and absorb it (in your wealth)." Qur'an 4:11 "Allah directs you in regard of your Children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females.... These are settled portions ordained by Allah." Bukhari:V1B22N28 "The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.' When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.'" Muslim:B1N142 "‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'" Qur'an 4:43 "Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving." [The Qur'an claims women are unclean and polluted - worse than dirt.] Bukhari:V4B55N547 "The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.'" Qur'an 33:59 "Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better." Qur'an 4:15 "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them." Bukhari:V4B52N143V5B59N523 "When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'" Bukhari:V5B59N524 "The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet's wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?'" Ishaq:593 "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another." Bukhari:V3B48N826 "The Prophet said, ‘Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, ‘Yes.' He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'" Ishaq:584 "Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman." Ishaq:185 "In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards." Qur'an 24:31 "Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands..." Qur'an 24:34 "Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving." Ishaq:469 "The Apostle said, ‘Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa'd.'" Tabari VIII:62Ishaq:496 "Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, ‘Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.'" Ishaq:496 "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.'" Qur'an 24:1 "(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment." Qur'an 24:6 "And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth."Any culture (or "religion" for that matter) that treats women as nothing more than domesticated animals does not deserve to exist, as far as I'm concerned. Any rational human being can see that.
Oh, and that's one helluva an awesome drawing, my friend.
Just noticed the new blog title with your handwriting. Looks great!
Imposing, dark, powerful, Oh-so-badass.
Hey Mike, nice work on the various texts. I have often wondered why the women's rights groups give Islam a pass on all this. It's plain as day. There's no way to spiritualize the texts or say they only applied to a generation long ago. As far as they are concerned, Allah said it; so it applies today the same as it did 1000 years ago. People are nuts.
Mike, My copy of the Koran has slightly different wording than the one you quote here, but the gist of it is there. You also quote from the various hadiths, which are collected reports of the sayings and doings of Mohammed that are used to give context to the Koran. Some hadiths are considered more legit than others. In my research, I've learned that there are also differences among all the translations of the Koran. I read of one where the passage that gives a green light for wife beating added the word 'lightly' to it, likely one for Western consumption. Knowing that they couldn’t jettison ‘the word of god’, they attempted to ‘lighten’ it for non-Muslims, as if one can beat one's wife lightly. There's even a hadith where Mohammed is quoted as saying that Muslim men should keep their whip where their wives can see it. Thanks for noticing the new signature title, it's less generic now, I like it, and for the good words about the drawing.Fellow Infidel,Nice compliment, appreciate it.
I found the following quotes online today and was astounded and disgusted (even though I do not know if all of them are authentic).you were astounded and disgusted by something you acknowledge may be fictional???A source would be helpful
'albert',It's all fictional when it comes down to it since Mohammed made it all up as he went along, the revelation's from allah, etc.And you're going to have to do better than that to deflect the content you see in these excerpts.
fair enough, just the opening disclaimer 'I do not know if all of them are authentic' negates the content thereafter. Which are in doubt? The following posts of 'yah i agree' are also moot since we know not which ones we agree on or which ones astound and disgust us. Surely i need not 'do better' but rather the responsibility is with the propagator to assure us these quotes are from a source. 'To fear to face an issue is to believe that the worst is true'.. in this case that these are without basis and therefore premeditated with a view to mislead. The worst scenario being true.
Bosch: Mohammed did NOT make up Islam as he went along! He PLAGIARIZED it from the Jewish Old Testament, and spiced it up with some of the New. This is why these are the two hated religions, for some strange reason. It would be like Battlestar Gallactica fans hating Trekkies and Star Wars buffs.
robert,Touche, Ha....but Mohammed DID make up Jihad when he failed to talk Jews and Christians out of their religions.
ali-bert,Your acknowledgment of Mike's clear disclaimer scraps your insinuations about his intent. Looks to me like you're playing interference here, something an active Muslim would do when infidels get wise to Islam's peace racket. I think there's a good chance we've got a live one here.....
Interference? In what? It's a blog. Other than Mike Thompson saying 'that's great Bosch' after every post and you talking about muslims in your breakfast there isn't much going on. If you cannot understand that a statement of "I do not know if all of them are authentic" leaves the "astounded and disgusted" as a misnomer. Which ones are in question? Simple. I think I will leave you and mike to it. Spending all your time alone is messing with your head man. You think i am a muslim? Why?
ali-bert,Move along, punk.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/book-reviews/infidel-murder-in-amsterdam-in-the-name-of-honour-shame/2007/02/16/1171405429624.htmlGood, clear evidence of at least one woman's mistreatment.Bosch, my mistake that I didn't cut and paste the web address. Sorry about that. I'll keep that in mind next time.Albert, regardless of the authenicity of the aforementioned quotes, I find it disturbing that you would not be disgusted by all of them. You must be a member of the DrawingBoard.org forum. Your words sound familiar to me. (That you, Faroukbaaaaa?)
For more on Islamically sanctioned wife beating, from the Muslim world’s bizarro version of Dr. Phil:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307680,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/saudi.rape.victim/index.htmlWhy again are we such good "buds" with the Saudis? UNBELIEVABLE!!!! A woman is gang-raped and then sentenced to 200 lashes and a 6-month prison sentence...for what? Sitting in a car with an ex-boyfriend. And yet America is vilified at every opportunity. Pathetic.
‘The truth is that in Islam men and women are not treated equally even after death........according to Muhammad few women ever make it to Paradise. The majority of them end up in Hell. Let us see what the Prophet says in this regard. This is where he describes his hallucinatory visit to hell and paradise:“Then I saw the (Hell) Fire, and I have never before seen such a horrible sight as that, and I saw that the majority of its dwellers were women.” -Ali Sina
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