Thursday, April 17, 2008

DIEALOGUE!


36 comments:

Godfrey of Utah said...

Excellent! Bravo! Incredible! A miracle! Antother cleaver and masterful work of art. Clever play on the word "Dialogue". "Diealogue" is what we should conduct with Adolf Ahmadenejahd of Iran. Maybe we could bring back the days of greatness and tolerance under Cyrus the Great and the other kings of old Persia. Pigman reminds me of the Superheroes I read about hard at work. And what good work it is.

phuckie slum said...

Indulging drawing.
Pigman's sidekick is the uppercut.

Mike Thompson said...

Awesome as usual, Bosch. They just keep pouring out of your imagination. Just amazing, my friend. Amazing.

Damien said...
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Damien said...

Actually here's the dialog we should be having with our enemies.

Jihadists- Convert or die, Infidel!

Free World- No, unconditional Surrender or you die!

Jihadists- No Infidel you will accept Allah and his prophet or you will die!

Free World- This is your last warning!

Jihadists- we do not fear death, so what are you going to do?

Free World- You know the seventy two virgins aren't that pretty.

Jihadists- How do you know, infidel?

Free World- What nice looking woman would want to go out with you?

Jihadists- Plenty we are allowed to have up to four wives in Islam you know?

Free World- How do you know, how do you even know what a woman looks like? You always cover them in those long black thingys. Besides, have you seen any of the women in paradise?

Jihadists- We just know, they must be beautiful. Allah told us so.

The Free World whips out a picture of Rosie o Donnell.

Free World- I heard that all the seventy two virgins look like like her.

Jihadists- but how do you know?

Free World- trust us, we've been to paradise, you haven't.

The Jihadists take off their suicide belts, throw their guns away, and wonder why they wasted so much of their lives. They also wonder why Allah lied to them.

Hope you enjoyed my satire. I wish it could end like this in real life.

Godfrey of Utah said...

While we are at it Damien, why don't we show them a picture of Hillary, Striesand, Whinfrey, Pelosi, Fonda, I can go on. Have you heard of Jeff Dunham the Ventriloquist? He is hilarious! Look up on YouTube "Walter on Terrorists" and "Achmed the Dead Terrorist", pure genius.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Thanks, guys, this is my response to the man whose weakness ignited the modern jihad revival, Jimmy Carter. And he's still up to no good, kissin the enemy's ass, while pretending his words can have any effect on throat-slitters. And in Any other context, they'd take him out, but he's been the jihad's most useful idiot, even, incredibly, writing speeches for the Ass Sex of Evil himself, Arafag, in order to make him seem more palatable for Western audiences. [To those who would be offended by that, I don't give a damn what individuals do in the privacy of their own homes, but our enemy's culture gives such a damn that they kill homosexuals. Arafag would rather have died, or killed, to hide that fact, which is why it must be used mercilessly against him.] A part of Carter knows that history's going to tear him apart and he's desperately trying to do something, anything relevant, and his thinking this is it simply confirms everything about this piece of shit. He has doubled-teamed this country with our enemies for decades, and the only way he'll stop is when he drops dead in a few years. I, for one, am counting the days.

P.S.
Damien, since the enemy obviously holds the idea of virginity at a premium, at least Rosie's a virgin.

Damien said...

Godfrey of Utah,

Yes I have heard of Jeff Dunham, and I saw both of skits you mentioned. They were funny. I wish more people would make fun of our enemies like he does. One of the few films I saw with Jihadies as badguys was Team America World Police. It was by the same people who do South Park. It was funny, but I would recommend it for children. It had too much mature content.

Bosch,

Rosie may be a virgin but, do you think you would blow yourself up for seventy two of her?

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien wrote:

'Bosch,

Rosie may be a virgin but, do you think you would blow yourself up for seventy two of her?'


Your words imply that, however unintended, I WOULD blow myself up for Something. Now, I think you know that I come from a Muslim background, but my inner Muslim's long gone. [this is where a smiley face icon would go, but I don't use them]

Damien said...

Bosch,

Sorry about that, I didn't mean to imply anything about what you would do. I should have first put "If you were a jihadist...." I am sorry about that it was not intentional.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

I suppose the smiley face icon would have sufficed, but as I mentioned, I have this aversion to using them.

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Damien said...

Bosch,

Speaking of Dialog, I think it would be a good thing if some of the greatest minds in the anti-Jihad movement got together. How about, you, Robert Spencer, Christopher Hitchens, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali discuss how we could do a better job of fighting Jihad in an open forum.
It would be an interesting symposium.
I would image Spencer and Hitchens getting into a heated debate.
But, I think that we could all learn a lot from it and each of you could learn something from the other. Its possible each of them would have a good idea that the other didn't think of. I would enjoy watching or reading the transcript from a blog post somewhere.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

Oh, I'd love to see that, mainly for what you mention, that each would bring something completely unique to it. I know that Front Page Magazine has some great symposiums about Islam, Jihad, etc, that are definitely worth reading, there was even one recently where both Hitchens and Spencer were involved in. I'm in the middle of reading FPM's latest symposium, 'A New Koran?', which deals with 'Muslim's Against Sharia's attempt to edit out the evil from the Koran. Spencer's in there as well, along with Bill Warner. Some of the things that are said by two of the contributors, both Muslim, are so ridiculous and inadvertently funny, and incredibly awkward, along with cheap shots at the host, it's gotta be read. Check it out when you can.

Phuckie Slum and I went at it with 'Muslims Against Sharia' in the 'Muslims Vs Jihad? post. And true to form with their editing of the Koran, after responding with profanity to our responses, they deleted those posts.

Damien said...

Bosch Fawstin,

You said liked my suggestion of getting all the best minds in the Anti-jihad Movement together and discuss how to deal with the problem. But would you like to be a part of it? I was suggesting you could join the discussion. You would have some interesting ideas too. Would you like to be a part of the symposium?

I read that symposium on the new Koran. I am learning how to make functional links in my comments, but I haven't really finished learning yet. So I didn't bother.

Oh and I am well aware that you and Phuckie Slum, got involved in an argument with the people from Muslims Against Sharia. I read over those comments. I did think it was interesting. Although you should give Muslims Against Sharia some credit. They do at least see something wrong with whats in the Koran. Too many people don't.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

I did give credit to Muslims Against Sharia for rejecting Sharia Law and Jihad. From my first reply to them on this site:

‘Let me first acknowledge that as far as being against Sharia Law, we’re on the same page……’

And then even after we went at it a bit:

‘You've got your work cut out for you, but I will say that I truly wish that all Muslims were like you and your group. Regardless of my disagreements with you, they can remain disagreements and not turn into a death match like it would with Muslims who take Islam literally…..’

Of course, I absolutely disagree with their approach, which is as solid as a cloud.

Regarding my being invited to be part of a symposium, I’d be honored. I think that once The Infidel hits the marketplace, things will get interesting.

phuckie slum said...

'Muslims Against Sharia' is an extremist in disguise, and played right into the hands of the article in which he replied to. He's absolutely less against Sharia than he is anti-bush, America and Israel.

He'd run in amok like every pathetic Pali from Sharia claw™ into the State of Israel any day now, but he'd never ever stop hating Zion and zionists, incite lies and whine against it as being "Apartheid".

His creed are light years far from Walid Shoebat or Wafa Sultan (to name a couple). That immediately renders them as dangerous or losers (either way, both titles fit their culture like pig leather glove).

Bosch, good luck joining the symposium.

Sharia Claw™, is a Copyright © of Phuckie Slum

Bosch Fawstin said...

Phuckie Slum,

'Sharia Claw', Ha!

About the symposium, you must be referring to Edip Yuksel, not Khalim Massoud, 'president' of Muslims Against Sharia. They were both lousy, but Yuksel's comments and insults revealed far more from him than he intended to.

Damien said...
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Damien said...

phuckie slum,

Muslims Against Sharia is an extremist organization in disguise?
I don't think that's the case. You see I have been to their website.
Here's the link.
Muslims_Against_Sharia

They appear to be legit. They have a tally of death threats over Fitna verse Schism. The Fitna death threats keep going up and death threats over Schism stay at zero.
Also, they consider CAIR a Muslim extremist organization. They consider them to be fascists posing as moderates. The extremism of CAIR is not something most people realize. If Muslims Against Sharia, was trying to hide its own extremism, and pose as moderates, why would they do things like this? It wouldn't make sense.

Maybe the reason they removed their comments from this site wasn't to hide extremism, maybe they were just embarrassed. As far as arguments went, you guys gave them a logical smack down.

By the way. This is the first time I created an active link. So Bosch, I can do it now.

Damien said...

The group Muslims Against Sharia, Also, admits that Fitna is accurate. They even link to Jihad Watch. I know the Koran tells Muslims to Lie to Infidels, but it seems to me like its more likely their not Jihadists in Disguise. If they are secretly bent on Imposing Sharia, why would they do that. Finally, no matter how good someone is at lying, at some point they tend to mess up and reveal the fact they are not telling the truth, if they lie long enough to enough people. No matter how good they are at it.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

Good to see you can link.
About Muslims Against Sharia, their conciet that the meaning of Islam is up to them will keep them a very marginal group. If they can't accept that the words of the Koran are meant to be the verbatim word of Allah to be obeyed by them, regardless of how they feel about being associated with such words, then they're not Muslims. The meaning of Islam is not up to individual Muslims. They must accept it as is or reject it.

phuckie slum said...

Damien,

Ok, then they are passive extremists in disguise. Nobody cares they claim to be as self-righteous. They needs a whole lot more than that to convince me they are what they say.

It is severe enough when their respectful representative came in here acting indifferently from what they fiercely claim to be different from. The tool attempted to wave a proof in a thread where Bosch criticized moderate muslims for doing nothing against Jihad. Unfortunately for him, he appeared to be a bit suspecious and not as clear as Wafa Sultan for that matter. Until we blew his bubble.

Coming from one of the top dogs of such an organization, his political opinions where as poisoned with lies in the lines of the radical left. Like, Israel may have the right to exist, but Israel is rooting wahabbism / jihad -- which effectively renders them as utter phonies. Even if it was just a mere supporter of this group I'd conclude the same.

By the way, I doubt they even believe in Israel's right to exist, if they don't recognize it to begin with. Almost every muslim interviewd in the Western MSM will always, but always be evasive with rhetorical answers like "Israel has the right to exist, but - " to appear legit with "different opinions".

Muslims Against Sharia Claw™ need to try a whole lot harder.

Damien said...
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Damien said...

Hey Bosch,

Here's a book you might like.

Why We Left Islam

Let me know what you think.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

Thanks for the heads up on the book, haven't heard of it until now. And 'Dougie' Hooper's outright dismissal of it prior to publication is as good an endorsement as any, should be used for advertising purposes. I've read Ibn Warraq's 'Leaving Islam', about Muslims who left the faith, mostly after they read the Koran, but this looks to be slightly different in that it's about Muslim 'radicals' who left Islam.

Damien said...

Bosch,

So you think you might buy it?

Bosch Fawstin said...

Damien,

After reading dozens of books on Islam and Jihad, I've been pretty judicious about what I read now, trying not to read books that deal with similar matters, but this looks good, insightful enough to get, along with Spencer's upcoming 'Stealth Jihad' book, focusing on the soft Jihad, which I call the Closet Jihad.

phuckie slum said...

Soft Jihad; rings Muslims Against Sharia, to me.

Damien said...

I just looked up "stealth Jihad" on Amazon. It looks disturbing, but I am glad Spencer has the guts to write it. Little bit of trivia, did you know the stealth jihad has also been referred to as cultural jihad? Its when Muslims try to slowly implement Sharia by changing the culture and institutions, so slowly no realizes whats going on until its too late.

Like the Nazis, our Islamic enemies may believe in a stupid ideology, but they're not that stupid. Even some in the anti Jihad movement underestimate how clever they are. For one thing, on 9/11 the terrorists were smart enough to only hijack planes flying across country, so they'd have lots of jet fuel in their tanks. The terrorists knew these planes would do more damage when they hit their target. They also understood that their real intentions could not be known until it was too late. Because the understood the passengers would fight back. So they didn't let the passengers know what they were going to use the planes as suicide bombs. They came up with some fake story involving bombs on board the planes. The only reason why flight 93 ended the way it did, was because the terrorists didn't plan on, the passengers finding out their true intentions.

I think I might get that "Stealth Jihad" book as well. Do you have any of Spencer's other books? I own a copy of "Religion of Peace, why Christianity is and is Islam is not" also by Robert Spencer. Did you read that book?

phuckie slum said...

Damien,

Here's what muslims and muslims against sharia claw need to look at, as a good starting point:

http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

Crisp clear anti Jihad. They blame the source and nothing but it. Many of these arabs still consider themselves muslims, but exactly the yearned mutation everyone in the west has been expecting for decades than to resorting to an all out war. This community IS a great example of muslims lifting a (middle) finger against Jihad.

Unfortunately for us, they are muted in the arab / muslim world. Even in the west, they are heavily guarded from continuous death threats by muslims. They deserve a great deal of encouragement. They are admirable - they really help defining the enemy for the overwhelming populace of illiberals in the west.

Completely unlike those phony sly Muslims Against Sharia, who are full of shit truck-bombs.

I love it when I'm right on the money.

Damien said...

phuckie slum,

I never heard of the group 'Arabs For Israel' before. Thanks for the link. It a good site. I added it to my bookmarks.

phuckie slum said...

Damien,

If you check more into their site, you'll see testimonies and letters of support from muslims.

It's mesmerizing to see them start with "In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, merciful, glorious" crap, when the content is completely unexpectedly opposite of what everyone is used to. Among the clear praises to Israel's endurance as a victim in the face of Islamic terror you can also find shivering oxymorons such as "Islam is peace, exactly as our prophet (pblah) preached and did".

Despite these sharp stings, this is definitely a start in the right direction.

Do you see why Muslims Against Sharia are phonies?

Damien said...

phuckie slum,

I just don't understand why they would do some of things they are doing on that website, if they were secretly Jihadists that's all. I don't know were you heard them say that horrible stuff about Isreal, but if you can show me where they said it, I'll believe you.

sheik yer'mami said...

you can't be a Muslim and against sharia.

Its either or. Sharia is the essence of Islam, jihad is the 'pinnacle'- there is no in between.