Tuesday, March 01, 2011

Don't Judge a Comic Book by its creator's appearance on The Daily Show

First thing. The Daily Show is a left-leaning comedy show.


To viewers of The Daily Show: Whatever brought you to my blog, if you're interested in finding out Firsthand what my work is about, I ask that you consider getting the 1st chapter of my graphic novel series, The Infidel, featuring Pigman. It's a digital comic that's 25 pgs for $2.50, and whatever The Daily Show made you think about my work and why I do it, I think you'll find that my comic will surprise you.


My Daily Show appearance was a prerecorded segment that I taped with them a few weeks ago. The main topic discussed during the "interview" was the "Muslim" Batman, but we also spent a significant amount of time discussing my own creation, a counter-jihad superhero named Pigman. Based on what was filmed during the 3-hour shoot, the segment has the potential to be humorous, controversial and informative. How it will actually turn out depends, of course, on the editing that was done. And unfortunately, I had no control over that.
  

So all I can do is hope that it was at least somewhat a case of life imitating art. Below is a snapshot from The Infidel #1 with its protagonist saying something that I echoed during the taping of my segment:



UPDATE: I've now seen the segment and before they "edited" it, I actually answered, ‎"What's wrong with Batman in WW2 recruiting a German Batman without any mention of Nazis?" when Asif asked me "What's wrong with a Muslim Batman?", and they did the same thing with some of my other "answers", but overall, I was fine with the segment, and it was definitely funny. 

UPDATE 2:  For my full account of what was left out of my aired segment on The Daily Show, click here.

36 comments:

Flying Tiger Comics said...

I commend you for following your dreams, and I wish you every success with your truly independent comicbook ventures.

Your politics are your own affair, but the Infidel story is a good one on any objective standard.

It will be interesting to see how much of the daisy-chained echo chamber of comicbook websites takes you up or takes you on and gives you a fair shake. If they don't, I would welcome the opportunity to interview you and post a long and detailed review on our own comicbook blog.

Joe Maurone said...

Bosch, it was hard to watch, knowing The Daily Show's m.o. I thought you presented yourself well, screw the rest.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Thanks, FTC, stay in touch.


Thanks, Joe, it was to be expected, but my work is out there in way it wasn't before it aired.

Rich Johnston said...

Hi Bosch! Just seen the show. Writing a piece for BleedingCool.com now...

Can I ask, do you also believe all Catholics are terrorists or have the potential to be terrorists? I speak as someone who has been almost blown up by Catholic terrorists three times, and Islamic terrorists once...

Joe Maurone said...

"Can I ask, do you also believe all Catholics are terrorists or have the potential to be terrorists?"

That was my problem with the Daily Show's approach, especially with the question about Bosch's parents as terrorists...it ignores the idea that if one is CONSISTENT in their faith, the potential for terrorism is greater. It's the contradictions, either in the beliefs or in the follower, that sway that potential. (My personal favorite example is the Christian Creflo Dollar; the very name explains my point...). I'm reminded also of "Comrade Sonia" from Rand's WE THE LIVING, who was adamantly Communist, until it came to her and her child's well-being...

Sam said...

Dude, your illustrations are really bad.. Proportions are all wrong, just really bad drawer. Can I suggest you go back to the basics and get some art education?

Bosch Fawstin said...

Yawn

amro said...

I suggest you go to loonwatch.com where your lies about Islam has thoroughly refuted by muslim reformers(everything from apostasy, to jihad, to freedom of speech and blasphemy)

Damien said...

Bosch,

I saw episode of the daily show with you in it last night. It was pretty much what I would have expected.

jss888 said...

So, what was the actual answer you gave for Pigman's powers? Cause "he good at killing Jihahdists" sounds too simplistic and 4th grade to be all there is to it. Because I don't think pig leather is going to be enough to stop more than a few rounds from an AK. Unless of course he's as badass as Dark Knight Returns Batman. Cause the comic definately has that stylistic look to it.

Grant Jones said...

The Daily Show conducted a typical liberal smear piece in that segment. No surprise, it's who they are and it's what they do.

Good luck with all your future efforts.

4782a7ec-4539-11e0-aff9-000bcdcb471e said...

Hello, I just finished watching the piece on the Daily Show with your interview, and ended up here after searching on your name. I have to say that I am surprised to find that you thought the piece was funny, and that you're "fine" with it. Perhaps the old maxim of any publicity being good publicity is true, but Aasif Mandvi flatly called you a bigot.

I am something of a fan of TDS, but on certain issues they clearly have an irrational bias, and get it badly wrong. I couldn't help asking myself if they would have questioned a former Christian who was making a comic that was humorously or harshly critical of that religion nearly so accusatorially. Somehow, I doubt it, but because Mandvi is a Muslim and Muslims are a minority here, it's seen as an acceptable argument to chastise critics of Islam.

I am an atheist and a skeptic, so I don't share your apparent subscription to objectivism or the politics of Geer Wilders. However, I endorse the criticism of all religion (and especially violent fundamentalist religion) in all its forms and think that if for nothing else, your comic is worthwhile for that purpose. Additionally, I cannot help but notice that you are member of a very select and small group of people who are apostates from Islam. Given the undeniable seriousness with which Islam takes its death penalty for infidels, you have my respect for possessing the intellectual strength and perseverance to make it out of that awful religion in one piece.

Also, unlike a commenter above, I rather like your illustration style and am interested enough to buy your comic.

Joe Maurone said...

This interview reminds me of the Rush interview with the New Musical Express where they were blindsided by interviewer, Barry Miles, who seemed friendly enough at first, only to label the band as "fascist" for their (at the time) Objectivist viewpoint.

The difference here, however, is that, unlike Neil Peart, who was shaken enough by the experience to hold his tongue later on, Bosch isn't running away with his tail between his legs.

raray said...

I know you were trying to go after Jihadist but contents and the themes are offending general Muslims as well. I was surprised that you were raised as Muslims and I'm glad you left the religion because how misinform you were about Islam.

Mo said...

Hahaha such a tool. Id kick a field goal with pigskin pigman whatever his name is. Selling ur dignity to willingly appear as a racist on Cable television, to sell a few bucks of kindergarten comics with the publicity. Reminds me of catfish.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Genius

Joe Maurone said...

"I was surprised that you were raised as Muslims and I'm glad you left the religion because how misinform you were about Islam."

Yeah, Nothing to see here...oh, wait...

Radicalized Airport Shooter Targeted American Airman

"Hesse Interior Minister Boris Rhein told reporters Thursday in Wiesbaden the suspect, identified as 21-year-old Arif Uka from Kosovo, was apparently radicalized over the last few weeks by looking at Islamist websites in Germany. U.S. officials confirm that the suspect was extremely active on the Internet, specifically Facebook."

Damien said...

Bosch,

I just read over that article you wrote about what they left out of the interview you had with the Daily Show. They most certainly left a lot of important things out. That statement you made about why it would have been seen as a bad thing if there had been a Batman comic where he hired a German during World War 2 and it didn't mention the Nazis, really clarified what you actually meant. Its too bad they took that out.

Bosch Fawstin said...

It would have made me seem too sensible, too reasonable, Damien, which is the last thing they wanted to do.

Damien said...

Bosch,

Actually for PC leftist even that might be too much, they'd probably than say that you were comparing all Muslims to Nazis. I really don't know what is going to convince them that this threat is real, and that they shouldn't be so quick to demonize anyone fighting it.

Damien said...

Bosch,

To be fair through, I think I should point out that the Daily Show has stood up to Islamic fanatics in the past, so they haven't completely ignored the issue, infact they've been better than some others.

Daily Show: Mandvi - South Park Death Threats

Daily Show: Oliver - Mumbai Tragedy

Bosch Fawstin said...

I acknowledged that in my full account

Frederick Family said...

‎"What's wrong with Batman in WW2 recruiting a German Batman without any mention of Nazis?"

That's a flawed analogy. In WWII, we were at war with ALL of Germany. We're not at were with ALL Muslims. Al-Queda, the Taliban, and related groups makes up a tiny percentage of those we are fighting.

I also think you're mistaken if you believe DC Comics is not going to bring up the more controversial elements of Nightrunner's Muslim background, including the fact that some Muslims pervert that religion. He's a very new character, I'm sure they have plans to bring up some of the very things you believe they should deal with. They're not going to walk away from that storytelling goldmine.

My question to you is: "Did the Daily Show come to you because of some noise you made about DC and Nightrunner or did they ambush you with questions about the character? If the former, were you doing this to draw attention to your creations like Pigman?"

Either way--mission accomplished.

Bosch Fawstin said...

To be more precise, not all Germans were Nazis and not all Muslims are Jihadists. But if DC Comics had Batman recruit a German Batman during WW2, without acknowledging the reality of the Nazis, then I'd accuse DC comics of being engaged in Nazi propaganda, as I'm accusing DC Comics of being engaged in Islamic propaganda today. During a time of war being waged against us by Islam's consistent practitioners, to establish a "Muslim" Batman in the DC universe, without acknowledging within the comic book exactly who they're attempting to contrast him with, the jihadists, is simple Islamic propaganda, concocted by islamophiles who desperately want to believe, as you do, that our enemies are those who have perverted Islam, instead of the truth, that the jihadists have willingly allowed themselves to be perverted by Islam.

Bosch Fawstin said...

And your assumption that DC will eventually take on the controversial aspects of having a "Muslim" Batman is as generous as can be, because Night Runner exists precisely in order to avoid those controversial aspects.

Bosch Fawstin said...

And as I've written before, one of my main reasons for agreeing to appear on the show is of course to promote my work. And I really had no problem with what aired besides the fact that The Daily Show chopped up certain answers I gave to other questions and made me seem to appear to answer other questions in ways I did not during the 3 hour shoot. They got their laughs and I got my promotion, so yes, mission accomplished.

Damien said...

Frederick Family,

I'm pretty much going to stand by Bosch's reply to you, but I'm also going to add to it. Not only were they're Germans who were not Nazis, some Germans actually, actively opposed the Nazis, sometimes even risking their own lives. Here's one example. Have you heard of a group called Swing Kids? Despite the fact that they may not have represented the majority of Germans at the time, they were not alone either. There was a small but substantial Resistance Movement at the time, that wanted to put an end to the Nazi regime. It would have actually made sense for superheros like Superman, Captain America or Batman to Ally himself with a Germany during WW2, so long as he was part of the resistance to the Nazis. In fact it would also make sense for Pig Man to Join forces with a moderate liberal Muslim, So long as he was actually resisting Islamic Theocracy, instead of fighting for it. But based on what I know about Night Runner, I'm going to have to agree with Bosch. I don't think DC was trying to do anything like that.

Damien said...

Sorry, I meant to say, "a German, not a Germanny" just in case there's any confusion.

Damien said...

Bosch,

By the way, given something I just learned I have a feeling you would have fared much worse had the interview been with NPR.

Undercover Video Reveals National Public Radio Absolutely Willing To Front For The Muslim Brotherhood

Damien said...

Bosch,

Here's an Update on that NPR story,

NPR ousts CEO Vivian Schiller in wake of video sting

Emanuele Ciriachi said...

Truly wonderful strip! "He goes after jihadists."

hahahahaha!

redandthecity said...

You ask people not to judge your comic based on your appearance on The Daily Show, but aren't you judging Nightrunner without really knowing what the DC writers have in store for him? I'm an avid comic reader and, from my experience, they will address the muslim extremists at some point. It just might not be what the story is currently focused on as good story telling requires fleshing out a character before addressing something as serious as jihad and terrorism. It's a subject that shouldn't be taken lightly. Also, Nightrunner isn't Batman's sidekick, but the Batman of France under Bruce Wayne's Batman Incorporated banner.

Bosch Fawstin said...

Here's how I answered a similar point on a message board:

I think DC Comics has no interest in taking on Islam or its Jihad in any substantive way, even in a post 9/11 world, and Night Runner is a way for them to pretend they're doing something controversial without doing so at all. The only controversy is that they leave out the very reason Islam is now a topic of conversation in the West.

If DC Comics had Batman recruit a German Batman during WW2, without acknowledging the reality of the Nazis, (which would be essentially in order to Hide the reality of the Nazis) then I'd accuse DC comics of being engaged in Nazi propaganda, as I'm accusing DC Comics of being engaged in Islamic propaganda today. During a time of war being waged against us by Islam's consistent practitioners, to establish a "Muslim" Batman in the DC universe, without acknowledging within the comic book exactly who they're attempting to contrast him with, the jihadists, is simple Islamic propaganda.

Bosch Fawstin said...

.....and the time for DC Comics to have taken on the obvious was in Nightrunner's first appearance.

redandthecity said...

You keep saying that you doing THINK DC has an interest in taking on the topics of Jihad and Islam, but you don't actually KNOW.

And I'm going to stop you right now with that damn German Batman in WW2 example that you've been beating into the ground. Firstly Batman Incorporated is something that has only come about recently so in WW2 Batman would not have recruited anyone else to be Batman anywhere else. And secondly, yes if DC had done that story in WW2 and never addressed Nazism they could be accused of propaganda, but unless that comic happened, drop it. It's insulting to your intelligence.

And no, the time for DC to acknowledge whether or not they're attempting to contrast Nightrunner with jihadists is not in his first appearance in the comic. Unless they were making a PSA comic, at which point it would have come across as "Jihad is bad, mmmmkay?".

Your problem that Nightrunner being Muslim, but not a Jihadist was not IMMEDIATELY acknowledged in his first appearance kind of shows me that you wanted a PSA comic, not an origin story, which is what we got with Nightrunner. And frankly I prefer an origin story rather than being beamed over the head with rhetoric before I have a chance to get to know the character.

Bosch Fawstin said...

You lost me when you attempted to dismiss my sound hypothetical.

And as I discussed with Aasif on TDS, if Nightrunner fought jihadists, (of course, in doing so he'd be betraying Islam) I'd have no problem with him as a heroic individual fighting those he wrongly believes are betraying his religion. At least he'd be fighting those for whom he is meant to cover up for.